Tuesday, 11 November 2025

So we didn't post group stage projections

There's a few reasons for this, mainly lack of time, but:

a) The games come so quickly and trying to make minor updates after each set of games would just be too much to manage
b) With it only being best of nine, it increases the damage that is done if you don't win the bull, so you probably need even more edge than you would do ordinarily to ensure that your bet is still +EV if you don't win in the backroom
c) The usual dangers of dead rubbers, players having limited or no data, players mailing it in if they only need one leg

In retrospect this might have been a shame, as it'd probably have told us to lay Wade twice and it work for once. Still, it is what it is, and we will look at the last sixteen. I'll post the ones we know now then edit once we've got the data in from tonight, which I'll hopefully do tonight but I think realistically it'll be Wednesday (although when, given I want to watch the Running Man remake then will be in the pub in the evening, I don't know). Going short-medium-long-composite as usual.

Humphries - van der Velde - 92/93/92/92
Dobey - Smith - 84/75/70/76
Woodhouse - Evans - 44/54/55/51
Price - Schindler - 71/73/71/72
Littler - Nijman - 76/81/81/79
Rock - Scutt - 82/86/70/79
van Gerwen - Noppert - 67/63/64/65
Wenig - Springer - 36/32/32/33

So I'll take a bit of the in form Evans at the price he's available at, and then check on the Thursday games later.

Some things I want to do - look at if Littler outright for the worlds is in any way value, a WDF worlds preview, but I'll wait for the latter until next week once there's been quite a few more qualifiers this weekend, so maybe I do the WDF thing on Thursday.

Wednesday afternoon edit - not a great night sleep or morning so binned off the film until tomorrow. Bottom half projections listed above.

Monday, 3 November 2025

Grand Slam draw

Have a bit of time and it's out, so may as well have a quick post about it:

Group A - Moderately boring. If it was peak Smith then this would be quite exciting, but Humphries and Aspinall look too good at the moment. Spellman's always going to be a wildcard but it seems as if we've heard less of him than we did a couple of years back where he did look very dangerous, if he is playing back close to that then who knows.

Group B - This one also looks fairly obvious. Dobey and Heta are a class apart with Chris playing the better stuff, Martin has been kind of anonymous this year and hard to gauge where it's at, but doesn't seem in the same ballpark as the first two. Jurjen's shown a decent bit of form so that probable match for third might not be too bad.

Group C - This looks like it's a two horse race for second to me. Bunting is clearly the best player, but maybe not quite so good as he was maybe six months ago. Toylo is one that might throw up something dangerous in any of the games but is probably a favourite not to do it in any of them, while Schindler and Woodhouse are probably closer than you think in terms of raw playing strength, Martin's just turned it into results. Probably one of the few groups where anyone can turn over anyone.

Group D - Price is the pick here, not Wade. Gerwyn's good in pretty much any format, while I don't think this short race format in the group stage is the best for Wade. Evans is hitting some nice form so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he was able to nick second - although it'd be less of a surprise than Wade winning the group given how much I've undersold him. Bellmont will be competent but I don't think there is enough in the game yet to be a serious threat to any of these, even in a short format.

Group E - OK, Littler is going to win, but after that, who knows? Gurney is the known name, Scutt was going through a pretty bad slump but looks to be kicking out of it at the right time, while Sedlacek is a dangerous player (just started getting seeded for the last couple of Pro Tours) and has looked that way for a while now. Probably the group with the easiest pick for winner but you can throw a blanket over the other three, could be a 3-1-1-1 group coming down to who gets the smallest kicking off Littler and can either avoid a bad defeat in the other loss, or put a hurting on someone in the win.

Group F - For the love of god. Ashton producing the game of her life to beat Nijman and we see him average 105 in all three games and lose the lot again would be the funniest thing, but Ashton going 0-3 is probably orders of magnitude more likely than Littler going 3-0 in the previous group. van Veen and Rock are extremely close to me, Nijman is behind but he is not far behind, but a clear third favourite. Could certainly spring an upset and navigate to second or some kind of 2-2-2-0 clusterfuck for sure.

Group G - This one seems like the group of death. van Gerwen is probably not quite the MvG of the past, but is certainly still a danger. Anderson might have tailed off a bit in the last few months but is still mighty threatening. Greaves is probably already at a top 64 level, while Springer might already be at a top 32 level. This one probably favours experience over youth as to who qualifies, but you really can't be too certain about any match in this group. Only other fourth seed you might have said that about is Sedlacek but he got chucked in the Littler group so meh.

Group H - I mean this one seems quite bland really. Wenig and Crabtree will get a lot of good stage experience here, but they're both some way off of Clayton and Noppert. Is there that much between the top two? Not really. Is there that much between the bottom two? Not really. Is there that much of a chasm between those two pairs? For me, yep, probably the easiest group to call a reverse forecast on, but that's only because Lukeman has course and distance (any more racing metaphors I can squeeze in?) and maybe a bit closer to the top two in that group even if JvdV isn't.

I've got other stuff to write about plus I might get some numbers out for this so it might be a busy week here, even after the fact this is the second post. In one day!

The WDF. Hmm.

You know how I said the WDF had done a shitty job publicising the World Masters? Well, at least as far as me being able to see any of the publicity they did do? It didn't take much for me to see things when something didn't go quite to plan, as the situation and their attempts at managing the situation somewhat blew up social media the other day.

So basically it seems someone worked out they had fucked up one of the invite tables or something like that, and invited the wrong player to the women's event. As this was apparently noticed during the final qualifier itself, it was seemingly too late to do a switcheroo of the invites, which is quite obvious as the player you'd take out can't really join the qualifier that's already started. As such, what they've apparently done is bumped the field up to 25, by inviting both the player they should have done in the first place, and the one they did by mistake, and rather than having two spots, those players in the last chance saloon quali have an effective play in game, and they all get paid first round money whatever happens.

Which is fine and is making the best of a bad situation - only then that they seemingly deleted the explanation post and blocked X comments for future posts relating to the tournament. Which isn't exactly the way to own your mistakes. The question is how on earth this has happened in the first place. I don't even think this is a case of not being able to count to 24, something's got to have gone somewhat wrong somewhere. Frankly it needs two things doing.

First, it needs an overhaul (installation?) of their player management system. I have no idea what systems they have in place at present, but the first rule of anything IT related is garbage in, garbage out. If you limit the garbage in, then you've at least got a fighting chance. Create a very simple database in terms of what it holds. First name(s), surname, DOB, gender, country, email address. I don't think you need any more data at this point. That then spits out a player number as a unique key, you use that when you enter a WDF event, organisers of the individual event then have known good data that they can feed into Dart Connect or whatever. The main thing I'm trying to prevent here is data being fragmented. God knows how many times I've needed to check whether it's Dave or David Pallett, Matt or Matthew Edgar in my system, let alone situations where there's even more complication, like Martin Atkins, more or less anyone from Scandinavia, places like much of East Asia where it is normal to list the family name first (and seemingly Hungary based on two seconds of AI research as to whether Andras Borbely being listed the wrong way round in DC for the World Open was a fuck up), I still have no idea whether Jeff Springer and Jeff Springer Jr are distinct players, etc etc. I list the fields as I do to cover everything the WDF hosts - Paige Pauling could quite legitimately enter all the open youth, open girls, open and women's events on any given weekend if she wanted. Check eligibility by filtering. Have consistent data across all things you do. One database is better than four.

Second, it needs one solid way to handle submission of tournament results. Have some sort of portal where tournament organisers can submit what they are planning to host, that can then return confirmation of what WDF level event it will be, and once the event is done, present the number of rounds needed to allocate everyone their ranking points. Have this email the players at this stage confirmation of their finishing places, and it's then on the players to notify if there's been a mistake somewhere. Get that bit right, with a back end table that has something like player id - tournament id - tournament date - round reached, and you can then do everything else from there more or less automatically. Yearly ranking tables? Done. Regional ranking tables? Done. Race tables? Done. Handling players winning an auto Lakeside spot by winning a gold event? Easy to identify, easy to handle, just depends on the exact WDF rules as to how you do it. Exclusion of players from Lakeside race list that you know have accepted an Ally Pally invite? Can be done. The rolling rankings are just a one off job. Something like race to Lakeside is also a one off job, would just need a touch more work to handle all the exceptions - the point is that if you get the back end data right, then getting what you want out of it becomes a lot simpler, and I'm not convinced they're getting the back end data right. Fix that, and they've got half a chance of going two weeks without someone making BDO comparisions on X. 

My consultancy charges are very reasonable and can be paid in the currency of Lakeside tickets, just as an aside.

Friday, 31 October 2025

Whoopsie

I was going to post this lunchtime (or there abouts) with what I'm saying here, along with who I think will win through and who I'd want to win through the Grand Slam qualifier. However, despite a combination of:

- only best to five
- no need to play the quarters onwards
- people already pre qualified eliminate at least one, if not closer to two, round of 128 games

The PDC in their infinite wisdom started the thing an hour early, so when I went to look at the draw at just gone twelve, half expecting the board assignments to still be processing, we're under way. Oh well, I guess it is a logistics things in needing every second to set up for that UK worlds qualifier tomorrow. Oh wait.

If I was going to pick a "think will win, then want to win", I'd have gone the following:

O'Connor, Veenstra
Woodhouse, Dennant
de Decker, Scutt
Nijman, Warner
Noppert, Williams (Jim)
Joyce, Sedlacek
Smith (Ross), Taylor
Wattimena, van Duijvenbode

We'll see how close we are. Anyway, I said I'd give an FRH update after the last PC so here we are:

1 Luke Littler
2 Luke Humphries
3 Stephen Bunting
4 Jonny Clayton
5 Michael van Gerwen
6 Gian van Veen (UP 7)
7 James Wade (DOWN 1)
8 Danny Noppert (UP 1)
9 Josh Rock (DOWN 2)
10 Gerwyn Price (DOWN 2)
11 Chris Dobey (DOWN 1)
12 Ross Smith (DOWN 1)
13 Damon Heta (DOWN 1)
14 Nathan Aspinall (UP 4)
15 Martin Schindler (UP 1)
16 Mike de Decker (DOWN 2)
17 Jermaine Wattimena
18 Gary Anderson (DOWN 3)
19 Ryan Searle
20 Cameron Menzies (NEW)

Big climbers are obviously van Veen, although Noppert's fine run keeps him in the top 10. Aspinall's move is down to that Euro Tour rather than anything else, while Cammy takes advantage of Rob Cross' bang average form (and Cross isn't just out of the top 20, he's down to 25, although everyone in that slot is pretty close. As for those Pro Tours, Dobey looked pretty damned good in the one he won, while Woodhouse is still waiting for a first title after being denied by Nijman who continues to improve solidly. We're now done with the floor events, so barring someone getting snookers we know the 80 players from the OOM and Pro Tour list, and that's also settled up a bunch of the Challenge Tour and Dev Tour questions. So glad that van den Herik made it, and after cruelly missing out on it last year, van der Velde making it as well is also really welcome.

Also it seems as if the World Masters is on. Who's to say that the WDF do a shit publicity job?

Monday, 27 October 2025

GIAN!

Had very bad night's sleep on Friday so wasn't able to get the data entered in time for the last sixteen (and as a consequence, later rounds), but doubt anything of much value was lost. I guess maybe it would have thrown up Aspinall to lose again? Who knows. In any case, it's a huge result for Gian to jump up to number six in the FRH rankings, right into the middle of a cluster between third and seventh with less than a PC win between them all. Although, with that being said, with only Bunting and Wade actually playing this week, van Veen will have to wait to get the Dutch #1 spot, with van Gerwen only being in that group on account of his semi final. Noppert moved up to 8th with his semi but is some way behind that pack. Joyce and Gurney gained a couple of spots, while Pietreczko (who had a Pietreczko > Littler last longer) jumps back into the top 32 and could go a bit higher with Cullen just a few hundred points away. I'll put a full update in after the last PC.

Bellmont claimed the Challenge Tour in other things that happened this weekend, so that'll get him onto the tour, which is a welcome addition, but unlike some other CT winners it does feel like maybe a bit of a wasted Grand Slam spot, Stefan's fine but doesn't really seem like a top 64 level player or someone that'd jump out as someone who'd retain his card for sure. In terms of Slam spots, there's now confirmed as two spots for Pro Tour wins, at the moment it's Dobey and Heta, but Smith (Ross), Searle and Cullen all have two wins as well and can force themselves in, while there's another eight that'll have a chance if they bink back to back this week. More interesting is the race to get into the worlds - Bates appears the last man in who could do with staying in for additional Dev Tour spots, quite a few interesting players just outside as of right now but there is more than a first round win gap between Bates in 40th and Hunt in 41st so I guess for those looking to break in, the hope is that 35th to 40th are all separated by less than a grand, so what are the chances that none of them go 0-2 this week and give someone a chance? You can drop down to 49th and still have someone that can get above with a semi final run ot s couple of board wins - if that for some of them. I may do a bit more of a deeper dive on Wednesday when a lot of the permutations have been sorted. It's not as if I don't have the time.

As an aside, looking back at the next new winners post from February (it was either just before or after the UK Open, I think before). How bad was that list?

Thursday, 23 October 2025

Euros round one

Not sure how much value we'll be able to get out of this, given the incredibly vanilla nature of the field and the relatively small field size in general, but we'll have a look anyway to see if we can claw anything back. Numbers will go in small data/more form based to large data/less form based, with the composite overall number last.

Ryan Joyce v Luke Woodhouse - 48/49/50 - 49
Ross Smith v Peter Wright - 83/69/62 - 71
Gian van Veen v Damon Heta - 61/58/61 - 60
Gerwyn Price v Daryl Gurney - 64/71/72 - 69
Jonny Clayton v Ryan Searle - 59/57/53 - 56
Martin Schindler v Dave Chisnall - 56/49/53 - 53
Wessel Nijman v Michael van Gerwen - 50/49/44 - 48
Stephen Bunting v Chris Dobey - 59/59/54 - 57
Niko Springer v Jermaine Wattimena - 41/46/47 - 45
Gary Anderson v Cameron Menzies - 63/70/72 - 68
James Wade v Mike De Decker - 55/48/45 - 49
Josh Rock v Ricardo Pietreczko - 81/79/78 - 79
Luke Humphries v Krzysztof Ratajski - 76/78/70 - 75
Luke Littler v Raymond van Barneveld - 92/82/88 - 87
Nathan Aspinall v Rob Cross - 51/46/42 - 46
Dirk van Duijvenbode v Danny Noppert - 63/63/61 - 62

As expected, not much going, would have probably had a few minimum plays if we had a bit more working capital to get things to the minimum amount to bet, but we don't, so just laying Aspinall (after he wins a Euro Tour naturally) and having a small nibble on Ando.

Tuesday, 21 October 2025

100 not out?

Didn't have the time after an ill advised football trip on Saturday to get any projections up, which given how my picks on Saturday went was probably for the best. Aspinall denied us the dream GvV/DvD final, and set up the Euros field which is pretty much a wet dream for the PDC in that they have 29 of the top 32 in the FRH live rankings (Aspinall is back into the top 16 there, but will save until after the Eoros for a fuller update), missing out Edhouse (because he could never win this), Gilding (because he could never win a major) and Cullen (because he could never win a TV title) for the Euro trio of Ratajski, Barney and Springer, the latter being the only player to actually win their spot here rather than being gifted it. I'll get some numbers up for that tomorrow.

One thing I meant to mention a few posts ago was basically the most pathetic clickbaity X post I've seen in relation to darts in quite some time, which given the level of hysteria whenever Littler loses a match is saying something. I don't know the guy in question, not someone I follow and only noticed it as it appeared on an unrelated forum, but to paraphrase it basically said "van Gerwen to not play competitive darts after the Grand Slam before the worlds". Which we could paraphrase as "darts player misses one tournament he didn't qualify for". Which he might well still do, with the author of this said post apparently being ITK that van Gerwen won't play the last two Pro Tours. This might be true, but does it matter? You could write the exact same post about half the tour card holders. Doesn't make it news.

Anyway, in a more interesting thing I read on X, David Schlichting posted the theory after Greaves made it 86 unbeaten in the Women's Series that only Littler would be P > 0.5 (in layman's terms, more likely than not) to win 100 in a row on that tour if in her position. Now I don't think for one minute that David is extrapolating to imply that Beau is as such the second best player in the world, more that to even get this close should she not get to the century is probably lucky, but on reading this I summoned my inner Martin Schindler walk on music and thought this looks like a job for me.

I'll start by saying I'm clearly not going to model every permutation of possibilities, as that would just be silly. So I'm going to make some assumptions and simplifications. Firstly, how do we get to 100 wins? This is the simplest thing probably. Enter tournament. Win tournament. Repeat until streak is at 100. As such, we can reasonably say that we can replace that "win 100 matches" with "bink x tournaments in a row". How to find x? We just need to look at the entry counts and then gauge on average how many matches we'll play. Greaves, to win 86 in a row so far, has won the last 13 tournaments, That's pretty much right in between six and seven - this makes a fair bit of sense, while I could go through all the data and work out exact entry numbers, Grok's estimating that there's typically 80 to 100 runners in these things. If we call an average field size 96 for the sake of argument, then you've got a one in three chance of a first round bye - so for any given event, you'll need seven wins two thirds of the time, and six the remainder of the time. This gives us a nice even answer - if in three events, we expect 7/7/6 in terms of matches, that's twenty matches per three tournaments. So we need to win fifteen in a row.

Next, how often do we win a tournament? Now here's where we're going to need to get a bit controversial. The standard of the series is, in relation to the Pro Tour, pretty poor. Looking at the tour leaderboard on DC, there's barely a dozen players outside of Beau that were capable of an overall average that equates to winning legs in 21 darts or less. Barely half of these have a first nine over 80, so if they are wanting a six visit kill they're on average needing a three figure outshot. In the context of putting someone up against a tour card holder, that's not good. In the context of putting someone up against Littler, that's even worse. Dennie Olde Kalter would likely be an enormous favourite to win any WS event and you only need to go past best of 9 to best of 11 where he drops below 10% to win against Littler.

As such, I'm going to do a pretty brutal set of simplifications. First, I'm going to make all games best of 9, if only because I don't have best of 7 outwardly modelled in my master computer. It's only going to make a minor difference, adding or taking away one leg required doesn't change the maths that much. Second, I'm going to assume that there are at most a dozen players, other than us, that can realistically put up a challenge, and that if you draw anyone else, you get a free win. This isn't football where you can nick a goal on the break and then timewaste for the rest of the game - you can't drag someone into a scrappy opening leg, win it in 26 darts and then stall. You need to hit (at least how I'm modelling it) five winning doubles, and once you've thrown three darts there's nothing you can do to stop your opponent from throwing three better darts. Finally, I'm going to assume that in the event where we don't get a first round bye, we (and everyone competent) avoid each other, so as to be able to model things all the same - we're in the last 64 every time, and against 51 of the opponents we win, and against the other 12 we need to work for it. This may seem like an over simplification, but it only takes the PDC to say "we're seeding 16 players next year" and you get the same result.

So, that being said, how often do we win a tournament? With the simplifications we've made, this basically becomes a function of how many times we run into a good opponent, then working out how frequently we beat that good opponent. How good that good opponent is will come later, but let's cross the first bridge first. We've got 64 players - ourself, twelve players of interest, and then 51 jobbers. There's two things we need to do here - the simple one is working out how often we need to play someone good, which is a simple 12/51. or 23.5% of the time. The other thing we need to do is work out on average how often two of our good player pool run into each other. Now this  is something I probably knew how to do manually 25 years ago, but we have AI now, so I'm going to trust the number it's given in saying that we get 1.24 matches on average where it's good player against good player. Now clearly we can't eliminate .24 of a dart player in a match, so I'm going to need to round up/down accordingly and hope that we don't do one or the other that often. We'll repeat this process for each round:

Round of 64 - 0.235 matches for us, 1.24 matches total - new player count 12/20
Round of 32 - 0.355 matches for us, 2.13 matches total - new player count 10/6
Round of 16 - 0.6 matches for us, 3 matches total - new player count 7/1

From here, we know that we will get the bad player 1 time in 7, or s good plsyer with 0.857 probability, the bad player will lose to whoever, the semi finals will be between all good players so we need to go through an additional two players for a total of just a fraction over needing to beat four good players on average in any given event. That doesn't sound stupidly unreasonable, we'd expect the quarter finals onwards to see us up against someone decent a large percentage of the time, but in the early rounds the field is so weak on average that we usually don't run into any landmines early on. As such, the question is simplified into "how often do we beat a good player 60 times in a row?"

Now for the time consuming part. Working out the good player. I'm going to make one more massive assumption, and create a generic "good women's player", by taking the top dozen or so that we're trying to avoid (so women averaging better than 71.57 i.e. 21 darts on average), look at the speed that they finish legs against each other (to avoid watering down the stats where we're just playing really weak opponents who are letting us finish however quickly we want - this is the exact reason why I don't put any WS data into the database), and then I can put that data line into the master computer, stick it against whoever we want, and then if our tour card holder has a win chance of better than 98.86% in a best of 9 match (this being the sixtieth root of 0.5), then we know we're good. This is the ballache number crunching part. But it's done, and the sample of players I had has less than 100 legs in fifteen darts or fewer, and over 200 in each of the six and over seven visit buckets, with the latter being larger. Considering the database has over 50% of legs in five or better, that's a bad look. Shove that against Littler, and Luke wins a best of nine 99.47% of the time. That is way more than enough - heck, give Littler no free wins and the breakeven point is 130 matches. Yikes.

But who else would be favoured? What of Greaves herself? Well Beau would only expect to win against our conglomerate player just over 96% of the time, so for her, the breakeven point is 17 matches, or just over four tournaments as we've modelled it. So to get a thirteen tournament run is definitely a bit of sun running. Who else would be good? Well, sorting by winning average, nobody. Rock falls just short at 98.50%, Bunting despite averaging lower scores about a tenth of a percent higher but still no good, Price shows the same thing but is still short, and once you drop out of the top twelve you drop below 98%. So, too long didn't read version - yes, it is just Littler.

However, because there's always a however, there is one further thing that needs to be taken into consideration before we put the topic to bed. The data model I use for projecting matches makes the assumption that the bull is a coinflip. Now, with this level of disparity between quality of players, is that realistic? The question then becomes how often do we lose a match 5-4 (you would think that this would be most of the 1.3%, 1.4% of games that someone like a Pirce is losing), how often do we actually win the bull in practice, and how many of the additional times we win the bull were we not only not breaking anyway, but having the darts makes the difference between winning and losing? It's got to be a fairly small number, but we don't need to flip that many results to become a favourite to get to the magical 100 number. Price was breaking even at 52 wins against the good players and we needed 60 - that's pretty darned close. But that's an exercise for another post maybe.